Comments on: Vigorously Insisting On A More Perfect Union: Fighting Cuts, Demanding Universal Health Care

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[...] quote from a 2007 blog post I wrote: For those with severe disabilities dependent on Medicaid, the Republican cuts from [...]

By: Shmoo Snook

Shmoo Snook — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:32:00 +0000

The doc says: "This leaves the hospitals in a position where they cannot provide the care that Americans have received, and should receive."

And which Americans have received that care, doc? Americans with health insurance (or large amounts of money). Those without have no choice but to go to those public hospitals where nothing gets done.

If, as you predict, "[u]niversal health care will kill more Americans from clogging up the hospitals, than would die from lack of treatment," at least it will equitably kill rich and poor alike. Without universal health care, lack of treatment will kill primarily the poor.

And maybe that's exactly what you want, you putz.

By: David Shephard, M.D.

David Shephard, M.D. — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:00:00 +0000

Poverty Outlaw:
ever read the constitution, you nub? Try looking at implied meanings. The term Capitalism wasn’t coined until well after the document was written.

As far as universal health care–it’s pathetic. Walk into a public hospital, then walk into a private one. The difference, is that things actually get done in the private sector, while the public hospital is controlled by politicians who have no fucking clue how to deal with the problems. This leaves the hospitals in a position where they cannot provide the care that Americans have received, and should receive. Don’t argue about subject you have no clue about. If you were a doctor, you would know EXACTLY what I’m talking about. It’s obvious that you’ve never seen the other side of the ER or had to deal with hospital administrators. Universal health care will kill more Americans from clogging up the hospitals, than would die from lack of treatment. You ignorant socialists are going to destroy this nation.

By: Poverty Outlaw

Poverty Outlaw — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:35:00 +0000

P.S. You seem to have attracted a troll who is using the failures of government generated by a Party who wants to destroy government, to justify continuing the "system" we have now.

"Universal health care is socialism. As of now, this isn't a socialist state."

Show me where the Founders put Capitalism into the Constitution.

"It's the synagogue's responsibility, the church's responsibility, NOT the government's."

That is your opinion, based on the religious philosophy known as Christian Reconstructionism, which also holds that the proper role of Government is protection of private property and the imposition of Old Testament Law on everyone in society. While you are welcome to practice your religion and vote your beliefs, I am free to do the same.

"God said YOU do it, not "let your government do it for you." "

Under the Constitution, what you claim God said is irrelevant. I expect that when you become ill, you will not accept any government help.

"We cannot have church and state together. Remember? It's the church's job to care for sick and orphan and widows according to what you said earlier."

Religious traditions support what Nick is advocating. Only Reconstructionism restricts government from helping the sick and weak. Once again, show me where the Founders restricted government from this activity.

Nick, keep fighting the good fight! Now that I am aware of your blog, I will check in often.

By: Maurice

Maurice — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:18:00 +0000

So “Anonymous”. I have a question for you that I have for every “Conservative” that spouts his/her vile, backward, crap. If you are so fundamentally against government, why do you comment on it, and in many cases, choose to pursue some of your work life in it? I mean, if you believe so much in the “free market” why don’t you and Rush, and Sean, spend your days commenting and positing solely on it’s inherent ability to solve all of society’s problems. Seriously, the “free market” has always been the primary reason that all of history’s great social successes’ have been accomplished before though, right ? I just know that the “free market” would have freed the slaves right? Or gave women the right to vote, right? I mean the “free market iteration” worked so well that in the last century it created the Great Depression, but you conveniently disregard that don’t you. Although it is my guess that like most regressives, you don’t read and you have a strange contempt for intellectuals, so you would’nt know how the Great Depression came about anyway. It says a great deal about you that your peg is “Anonymous”. I speculate that like most regressives you choose this peg because you know that like most regressives you can’t defend your position intellectually and the only way that you can be involved in a mature conversation about how to deal with American society’s problems is to name-call or try to hurt the messenger of the competing perspective.

By: poverty outlaw

poverty outlaw — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:14:00 +0000

Nick, I agree with you.
Under Medicaid in Tennessee, with a Republican Governor, a disabled person could see a doctor all day long. Diagnosis and treatment were optional. Under this regime, my fibromyalgia was diagnosed by a doctor who soon stopped seeing Medicaid patients. The diabetes was diagnosed and a pill provided, but no patient education was forthcoming. The COPD and the arthritis in my spine was just ignored.
After I finally qualified for Medicare, the COPD was diagnosed by a GP who decided I “fit the profile” (I had turned 50). He put me on asthma medication. The arthritis and degeneration of my spine was diagnosed four months ago. The result? Taxpayers are paying $1200 a month for pharmaceuticals and oxygen, plus physical therapy so that I may possibly maintain my mobility. I have only limited use of my arms and hands. If all this had been properly diagnosed and treated 11 years ago when I became unable to work, I would still be happily paying taxes today. The GOP (Party of Life…Riiiiight)has fostered a perception that disabled people are lazy people sponging off the taxpayers. The hidden sub text is that if Jesus loved you, you would be healthy. The doctors seem to buy into one or both scripts, and coupled with anger generated by the pathetic payment rates common to both systems, provide minimal medical care to the disabled. The end result is that the disabled do their patriotic duty and die, early and often. This is fine with the general public. They are healthy. BTW, the only reason I survived to tell the tale is that I was a cardiac technician before I got sick and could educate myself about the various conditions and insist on proper treatment once diagnosed. Still, I doubt I will live to see 60.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:36:00 +0000

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By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:38:00 +0000

I didn't say it's the church's job to provide health care for everyone. I said it's the role of any moral society. I said it's mandated by every religious tradition. Protection of the weak is why we form a society, a government in the first place. You're at war with that.

Caring for the disabled is part of any valid social contract.

Will respond in more detail in my next blog.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:06:00 +0000

We cannot have church and state together. Remember? It’s the church’s job to care for sick and orphan and widows according to what you said earlier.

I do not want the same people who gave us the Swine Flu fiasco in the 70s caring for me. The people in Washington who cannot respond to an F2 tornado that affects just a few people without blowing a billion dollars needlessly couldn’t do much better on health care. There’s also fraud. If you think back to Katrina you may recall how many billions of dollars they said were wasted on fraud. Put free health care out there and see how many people start abusing the system. HA — I say “start”, look at the people abusing government systems right now! $11.6 billion in Medicare fraud in 2002? Billions in Medicaid annually? And you want more of that?

Your time would be better spent changing laws so that people who really need the health care the government already provides don’t have to share it with the frauds and the fakes.

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:43:00 +0000

Your assumption that the government is a separate, foreign body is false.

The people ARE the government. Of, by, and for the people. Everything government does is an expression of the will of the people.

There is a social contract we have with each other to care for the weak and ill. This is the foundation of society.

You are at war with the very fabric of civilization.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:56:00 +0000

Universal health care is NOT socialism. It’s Judaism. It’s Christianity. It’s Buddhism. It is simply what any moral system demands.

It’s the synagogue’s responsibility, the church’s responsibility, NOT the government’s. The laziest people on this earth are the “religious people” who allowed the government to take over THEIR job of caring for the needy. God said YOU do it, not “let your government do it for you.”

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:01:00 +0000

Universal health care is NOT socialism. It’s Judaism. It’s Christianity. It’s Buddhism. It is simply what any moral system demands.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:21:00 +0000

To comment #1:

There's different types of universal health care. There's nationalized healthcare- what you speak of- that does not work well or often.

Then there's single-payer, which keeps a private healthcare system, but the government foots all of the bill. It works.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:00:00 +0000

Universal health care is socialism. As of now, this isn’t a socialist state. You want free health care, move to a socialist society. Leave our free enterprise alone. I don’t want the same government who gave us the response to Hurricane Katrina determining whether or not I can get medicine. If you were wise, you wouldn’t want it either.